Who cares what they will do? Since you were never baptized, there is no "hold" whatsoever. Do you think they will announce that you are no longer a publisher? That you are now "bad association?" When they find out that you are gay, they are going to cut you off anyway. You have a life to live and enjoy, and are quite lucky, like I was, you have a dad that knows what a total crock it all is and will support you in getting an education and a life. The sooner you start living what you know you are going to be living, the sooner you can start healing from the years of suppressing your true self. The only person you should be concerned about shunning you is your mom. And no matter whether you wait, or come out now, you will eventually want to have a relationship with someone and share your life with her. Either way your mom will be part of it or not. You won't be able to control that. Sneaking around and hiding it from her only delays the inevitable. Since you have one parent who supports you for sure, I think you should give it up now. And refuse to meet with elders unless your father is there (that's what I did, way cool when they started to try to intimidate me and he got all paternal on them. SOOO COOOOOOL..."Don't you dare talk to my daughter like that in MY HOUSE! Get the hell out!). Take Care, Shoshana
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Any ideas what they'll do..
by Mysterious ini'm an unbaptised publisher but i want to get out.
if i simply quit going cold turkey what do you think they'll do?
i should mention my mother is a loyal dubbie but not my father (no worries from his side *winks at poztate*).
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Senator Bednar Leaves Watchtower!
by Voyager inthis forum has uncovered many jws who were found out to be political officials.
if this information should be old to some,--then perhaps for those who have just left the borg, might find the information helpful to reinforce their freedom.
the thread is very long, so if it should not work, then please go to kent steinhaug's forum at watchtower observer.. http://kent.steinhaug.com/forum/showthread.php?s=f3aa440065982e1f53cc3efe02055681&threadid=2744 .
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Voyager, there is no US Senator Bednar. There happened to be a Joseph Bednar in Missouri who was appointed to a post in the MSRS, along WITH the Missouri senators, but he was not one of the senators, and not the same "Bednar" referred to in the other links provided. Shoshana
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Please share your Xmas craft ideas with me
by Eyebrow2 inhello everyyone!.
this the first christmas that my husband and i actually have time to do stuff with our kids before christmas.
i hope to help them make some ornaments for our tree, and hopefully make a few to send up to their grandparents for their tree.
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I was just at the art supply store today. getting little Hanukah gifts for my friend''s daughters. I got a kit of baking polymer (sculpey or fimo, I can't remember) that bakes into erasers. It was about 15 bucks for a half dozen blocks of clay. The kids can sculpt erasers!!! I know my friend's girls are going to love it. They will get it first night of Hanukah and be able to make lots of erasers for everyone for the remaining nights. Shoshana
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Question from a non-member about birthdays.
by OldBen ini'm curious why jehovah's witnesses don't celebrate birthdays.
can anyone offer any help?
thanks in advance.
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Because you might spend money on someone instead of giving it to the WBTS. Same goes for Christmas. Shoshana
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Senator Bednar Leaves Watchtower!
by Voyager inthis forum has uncovered many jws who were found out to be political officials.
if this information should be old to some,--then perhaps for those who have just left the borg, might find the information helpful to reinforce their freedom.
the thread is very long, so if it should not work, then please go to kent steinhaug's forum at watchtower observer.. http://kent.steinhaug.com/forum/showthread.php?s=f3aa440065982e1f53cc3efe02055681&threadid=2744 .
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I just checked in my nightstand, and you weren't there!!! I'm going to complain to my senators.
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Senator Bednar Leaves Watchtower!
by Voyager inthis forum has uncovered many jws who were found out to be political officials.
if this information should be old to some,--then perhaps for those who have just left the borg, might find the information helpful to reinforce their freedom.
the thread is very long, so if it should not work, then please go to kent steinhaug's forum at watchtower observer.. http://kent.steinhaug.com/forum/showthread.php?s=f3aa440065982e1f53cc3efe02055681&threadid=2744 .
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Not BS my green rubber friend, posters just aren't paying attention to what they are reading. This "Senator Bednar" is a college student involved in student government. When you read the links, you can see they are talking about campus life and issues relevant to that arena (sororities, fraternities,athletics, etc.). Often, at a high school or college, those students who act as representatives for the student body are called "senators." That is what they are called at the high school where I teach. When taken in this context, this whole Senator Bednar thing is funny. I hope we can laugh at ourselves over this. Shoshana
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I dread Christmas this year.
by Vivamus ini dread christmas this year.. i have no-one to celebrate it with.. .
i mean, sure, i could invite myself to join in the merryment at some friends places.
but all my friends are celebrating with their parents, and so i won't do that.
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Christmas has never been my cup of tea. It has always been totally secular for me. It is also my birthday. This year I will be in travelling with my aunt and uncle. It will also be Hanukah, and my aunt's birthday, and a Radish Festival, which means I will have definite celebration. But when I am "in town" for the holiday, I do a few things to make it celebratory for myself. The first is to get the money I would have spent on my JW relatives (if they weren't JWs) and give it away to the poor homeless folks that are out in the cold on Christmas morning. There are also soup kitchens that need volunteers during the holiday season. In the U.S. there are always lots of programs where one can "adopt" a needy family and help make their Christmas. I have done any number of volunteery things during the season that have infused the season with meaning that I just don't bring to it myself. I can attest to the fact that spending it with people who feel obliged to be there, buy each other gifts and "make a party" falls pretty flat too. But, if you are going to spend the day feeling sorry for yourself, start planning now for lots of self-indulgent treats, movies, books, and other guilty pleasures to make it all worth it. There is no incorrect, or wrong way to spend the day, especially if you switch to green bubblegum for the day. Shoshana
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Watchtower Society Sued For Covering Up For Molestor Derek Packowski
by qua insacramento vicinity (loomis, rocklin, sunset congregations): court documents were just issued charging derek packowski and the watchtower society corporations.
the papers were filed by the legal firm of nolen saul brelsford of sacramento, california.
the child molestor and said corporations headed by the governing body over jehovah?s witnesses, were charged with not reporting to law enforcement and systematically conspiring and suppressing information about sexual molestation committed by packowski when he was in a congregation in des plaines, illinois, also after about 1984 and later in california at the loomis congregation from which formed the rocklin and sunset congregations.
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"John Does" are listed so plaintiffs' case won't be dismissed for failure to name relevant parties to the action in their initial pleading papers. Also it allows the complaint to be amended if the identities of more defendants come to light during discovery, without having to start all over. Its just a civil procedure game to ensure that this won't get tossed on a procedure technicality. And who says posting here interferes with my studying for my civ pro midterm? HAH!!! Shoshana
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Where were you at 33 years of age?
by DanTheMan ini've managed to survive 33 years (and a couple of weeks).
what a long strange trip it's been.. in spite of some tell-tale signs of aging (wrinkles around eyes, gray hair, mystified and sometimes terrified by the current youth culture) in some ways i still feel like a little kid who doesn't know anything.
what have you learned since then?
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That was two years ago for me. I had been teaching for ten years, and getting really bored. It was about that time that I took stock of my life and decided to make changes, like go to law school, practice Judaism, and clean up my emotional health. I had accomplished a lot "on paper" by 33, but I was socially and emotionally barren. I'm pleased to report that progress, though slow, is being made on that front. I am almost halfway through with law school, and am feeling much more mentally balanced (thanks to this board and a good psychologist who is experienced in problems related to JWs). Shoshana
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JEHOVAH
by minimus inwe all know that we do not know the correct pronunciation of the name of god.
over 6000 times, the tetragrammaton is mentioned in the ot.
yet for some reason, most bibles do not use the name jehovah or yahweh but a few times.
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Hey, Minimus, maybe it has something to do with its presence countering the doctrine of the holy trinity. But I think it has more to do with the fact that by tradition "lord" (adonai) was uttered instead.